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Mainline Executive Coaching ACT Podcast
Episode 337May 23, 2025

337: Internal vs External Coaching with Master Executive Coaches Eric Hicks, PHD, and Lance Hazzard

Rich BaronMaikel Bailey
Rich Baron & Maikel Bailey

Episode Notes

Organizations face an important decision when investing in leadership development. Should they build coaching expertise within their ranks, leveraging institutional knowledge and existing relationships? Or should they bring in external experts—offering fresh perspectives, specialized insights, and an objective voice?

Each approach carries distinct advantages and drawbacks, and choosing the right path isn’t always straightforward.

Eric Hicks, PhD, PCC, and Lance Hazzard, PCC, CPCC, are esteemed Master Certified Executive Coaches with extensive experience in Fortune 100 companies worldwide, specializing in the integration of internal leadership coaching programs. Their collective expertise in leadership development is showcased in their co-authored work, Accelerating Leadership, which provides valuable insights into the successful implementation of internal coaching initiatives.

Eric and Lance team up with Rich and Maikel on this episode of Mainline Executive Coaching ACT for an in-depth exploration of internal coaching programs.

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About the Hosts

Rich Baron

Rich Baron

Chief Operating Officer & Master Certified IL Coach

Master Certified IL Executive Coach, Lean Six Sigma, 100% Customer Retention (2006-2019)

As JMG's Chief Operating Officer and a Master Certified Intelligent Leadership Executive Coach, Rich brings diverse expertise in cultural transformation, operational leadership, and coaching leaders from emerging talent to CEOs.

Maikel Bailey

Maikel Bailey

Master Certified IL Executive Coach

Master Certified IL Executive Coach

Maikel Bailey is a Master Certified Intelligent Leadership Executive Coach with extensive experience in executive leadership, cultural transformation, and emerging leader development.

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